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Into what category would you fall?

I'm a law-abiding citizen who owns a gun and think laws should remain unchanged.
5 (20.8%)
I'm a law-abiding citizen who owns a gun and think there's room for reform of existing laws.
9 (37.5%)
I'm a law-abiding citizen who doesn't own a gun but believes in the right to own one.
5 (20.8%)
I don't own a gun and believe gun control laws must be put in place.
3 (12.5%)
I don't own a gun and believe no one else should have them.
2 (8.3%)

Total Members Voted: 24

Author Topic: Guns, guns, and more guns.  (Read 2821 times)

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Offline AlecWest

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Re: Guns, guns, and more guns.
« Reply #60 on: February 27, 2014, 09:48:20 am »

Winston Churchill once said: "There are lies, bloody lies and statistics." You can prove almost anything by selectively quoting and that is what I see happening a lot in this debate.


I also think it's evident that both sides in the debate are guilty of selective quoting.  I know I certainly don't believe everything the NRA tells me, even though I'm a member.  But, speaking about statistics, take another look at that "gun deaths" chart.  Of the countries mentioned. the UK comes in as having the "least" per-capita gun deaths.  But the US scores at "second least" in per-capita gun deaths.  South Africa's statistics are mind-numbing.  But per-capita, Germany, Canada, and Switzerland tie with scores worse than the U.S.  I'm not sure about gun laws Germany and Switzerland, but I was a bit surprised to see that Canada has more per-capita "gun deaths" than the U.S.  In 1995, Canada passed into law one of the most Draconian gun control laws in their history.  I'm unsure if laws have gotten less strict since 1995, though.

Bottom line?  Canadians (per capita) don't just shoot more "animals" (grin).

P.S. Aha, I've got it (grin)!  The reason Canada, Germany & Switzerland have more per-capita gun deaths than the U.S. is because they watch too many violent American movies.  This, of course, makes their worse scores "America's fault." 8)

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Offline AlecWest

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Re: Guns, guns, and more guns.
« Reply #61 on: February 27, 2014, 09:54:54 am »
OK, here we go again.  I "removed" my last post ... then reposted it.  Reason?  Because I noticed my first try was "ignored" as a new post in the list of threads.  True, the post "showed up."  But, it still showed Peter's last post as the newest post in the thread.  In short, the forum is "burying" new thread posts again.  So, if the problem was solved, it has resurfaced again (sigh).

UPDATE --- I did a test "new thread" post and it appears to have (at least temporarily) fixed the issue in this thread.

ANOTHER UPDATE --- For some reason the fix WAS only temporary.  Oh, well.

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« Last Edit: February 27, 2014, 03:14:05 pm by AlecWest »
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Offline qoSagh

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Re: Guns, guns, and more guns.
« Reply #62 on: February 27, 2014, 06:57:07 pm »
well I am back to threads never leaving my unread area. Maybe this reply will take care of it the way it did last time.




 

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